New Tonex 2.1 upgrade

If you already have purchased all the Tonex max suites do you still have to pay the price for 2.1?

Is there an upgrade price, I have recently invested quite a bit of money on all the products. Another 299.00 seems a little rich for an existing customer.

Thank you

TONEX 2.1 is a free update. However, TONEX Rig is an optional upgrade that brings the expanded creative power of the TONEX Board experience into TONEX 2 Player.

If you already have TONEX MAX you just need to update in IK Product Manager to get the TONEX 2.1 Player free update. If you want the TONEX Board functionality/effects/etc in addition to that, you’d need to purchase the TONEX Rig Upgrade.

Do you need the Tonex Board to take advantage of the Tonex Rig upgrade?

I have the Tonex Pedal (Large One) and will be purchasing the Tonex Board when Funds allow.

Thanks

TONEX Rig provides TONEX Board functionality and FX in software form. You don’t need TONEX Board to take advantage of the upgrade in software form. To run the TONEX Board functions on hardware you’d need the actual TONEX Board, of course, though since TONEX Pedal would not have the horsepower for the dual/split chains and four Tone Models at a time, and such.

Is there any risk to loose my library doing update??

Nothing is 100% risk free, so I’d back up your library using the built-in tool in TONEX to be safe.

But when I updated to the previous beta version, I made a backup, and I still lost my library.

That’s a beta, there are far more risks. But you should have been able to restore your library in that case. If you run into trouble IK Support can assist directly and get you taken care of.

I have the Board and just updated to 2.1. Is there a way we can do scenes on Tonex Rig?? That way I can audition and edit as needed. Thanks

I think the decision to make the Rig

  1. paid
  2. crazy priced
  3. not free for TONEX MAX users

was just about the worst decision IK could’ve possibly made.

I honestly think a 50% discount code for TONEX RIG for existing TONEX MAX and AmpliTube MAX users would be a very fair move from IK Multimedia.

It would reward people who have already invested quite a lot in the IK ecosystem, and at the same time I’m pretty sure it would convince many more users to actually buy the upgrade.

At around 50% off, I think TONEX RIG would become a much easier purchase to justify for a lot of existing customers.

TONEX Rig is already $/€50 off for existing TONEX paid software users, that is the decided price. But you are also able to take another up to 15% off with JamPoints.

This is not going to change, though of course in the future (usually quite a few months after release) there could be a promo.

It is an optional upgrade, TONEX 2.1 is a free update to your existing software which still does everything it was stated to do when purchased (plus got a lot of updates along the way).

I appreciate the explanation, and I understand that the pricing has already been decided.

At the same time, I can see and hear the reaction from quite a few existing users, and I think the biggest issue is that it’s difficult to judge whether TONEX RIG is really worth the additional cost without a proper demo or trial version.

For users who already own TONEX MAX and AmpliTube MAX, another $/€100 is not necessarily an automatic purchase. Without being able to properly test the new workflow, dual/split chains, multiple Tone Models and the new effects in our own setups, it becomes quite difficult to make an informed decision.

That’s why I think either a 14-day trial or a stronger introductory discount for existing MAX users would make a lot of sense. It wouldn’t diminish the value of the product — it would simply make it much easier for existing customers to experience that value before deciding to buy.

Yes, I have definitely relayed the request for a trial too (along with passing along the $100 as a discount on TONEX Board if someone has TONEX Rig and wants to go to the hardware solution).

I do really like the idea of giving people who pay for Rig an additional $100 off of Board later. Gives those of us who bought Pedal recently an incentive to pay to try out Rig now, and upgrade from Pedal to Board later. Otherwise, the incentive is to wait until we feel like we’ve gotten use out of Pedal. And maybe we’ll really like Rig and upgrade to Board sooner because of the experience testing out Rig. Seems a win/win.

Yes, I would have liked to test the Tonex rig beforehand as well—at least for an hour or two.

The only way I found to play around with some of the new rig’s effects was through the new ToneNET presets.

There’s often white noise involved, but I’m used to that by now.

Yes, many features have been removed—which is a real shame—but perhaps they’ll make a comeback.

All the requests from many users, myself included, haven’t been implemented so far. What I miss most is the ability to import a new TXP package directly within the Amp Model Tone Browser; that was really easy in Version 1.

I do understand the reasoning behind it, though, since TXP stands for Preset and TXM for Tone Model.

The problem is that the TXM files aren’t assigned names, just jumbled number combinations that are completely useless to the user.

Perhaps it would be possible to save a named TXM file directly when creating it in the modeler, instead of a TXP file—which isn’t actually a preset yet anyway.

And one important request for future updates:

When opening the Custom IR Browser, the user folders should only display User Cab folders, not every single Tone Model folder that’s been created; the current view is far too cluttered.

There are surely many users like me who need a large number of folders.

Anyway, enough criticism— I really like the new Tonex rig,

and I’m very confident that it will continue to improve.

The only thing is the noise gate: like with so many other providers,

it shouldn’t be part of the rig chain but rather a global setting that can be activated centrally.

That would be great!

Thank you!

Yesterday I’ve made a couple of new Tone model captures after updating to latest Tonex version but now I can use my new captures only in Tonex 2. Where’s the full library integration with Amplitube?

As of today, the only workarounds are to manually convert the new database (Library2.db) to the old Library.db format, roll back to TONEX 1.12, or simply buy TONEX RIG.

Full integration with AmpliTube is still missing. Quite a strategy from IK Multimedia, isn’t it?