How can i use Arc for listening music?(youtube-browser etc)

[Pabloacunaw]

It is the best way to get used to how your mix should sound with arc on - listen through arc to alot of reference tracks.

HERE IS HOW IT CAN BE DONE INTERNALLY IN WINDOWS:

You need to run Windows Systemaudio through an audiorouter into a VSThost running ARC that outputs it to your speaker via the Windowsdriver or Asiodriver of your Soundcard.

THESE ARE THE STEPS:

Download: VB audio Cable http://vb-audio.pagesperso-orange.fr/Cable/ [audiorouter]
Download: Savihost http://www.hermannseib.com/english/savihost.htm [VSThost]
[both are donationware]

Install VB audiocable and select it as standard audio out in Windows. Copy savihost.exe to where your 32bit "ARC 2.dll" is located. Rename it to "ARC 2.exe". Run it as admin. In Savihost go to "devices" chose "wave". Select "CABLE output" as the input and your audiointerface as the output (may need to play around what works best).

All Windows audio will now run through arc. (Browser/Audioplayer aso)

Send a copy of savihost to desktop, generating a shortcut. Copy and paste that to windows autostart folder so it will be started everytime you boot up Windows.

Win7: C:\Users\yourusername\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Window s\Start Menu\Programs\Startup

Hope that helps.

Cheers, Chris

Thaks Chris, it worked perfectly on my PC.
Is there a way of doing this on MAC?

[Siabadar]

I run it as a VST plug inside Foobar2000 audio player. Bit of a fiddle but works great.

[ablattberg1]

I run it as a VST plug inside Foobar2000 audio player. Bit of a fiddle but works great.

Using ARC in F2k... that's very intriguing.

Siabadar, how did you do it? Would you mind detailing your 'fiddling', in a step-by-step way?

I would love to try this, Thanks!

[Siabadar]

Sorry. I'm moving house and all my domestic stereo stuff is in storage. But you should be able to find a series of steps by Googling. Foobar2000 does accept VSTs and I seem to recall there were instructions with the download - or at least easily accessible. It's not immediately obvious how the installation is done but it's worth the effort.
Cheers
David

[BobF3]

On my Win10x64 system:

I use VB Audio as my default Windows playback device -- http://vincent.burel.free.fr/download/index.htm

At startup, Pedalboard2 runs with VB Audio as the input, my real hardware as output, and ARC2 loaded. -- http://www.niallmoody.com/apps/pedalboard2

This has the advantage of having ALL audio route thru ARC2 regardless of which app I'm using as long as they are set to use the default audio output for playback.



Peter - Despite the intended purpose of ARC, the "room tuning" improves all audio playback thru the speakers that were used for ARC calibration. One of the ARC competitors, released a tool for this use with their software a while back. You guys might want to consider doing the same. The above works great, but it is a bit fiddly to get setup initially.

[stephan.gebbers]

Thank you! This Solution works instantly. just have to make the pedalboard2 to autostart now.
Great!

On my Win10x64 system:

I use VB Audio as my default Windows playback device -- http://vincent.burel.free.fr/download/index.htm

At startup, Pedalboard2 runs with VB Audio as the input, my real hardware as output, and ARC2 loaded. -- http://www.niallmoody.com/apps/pedalboard2

This has the advantage of having ALL audio route thru ARC2 regardless of which app I'm using as long as they are set to use the default audio output for playback.



Peter - Despite the intended purpose of ARC, the "room tuning" improves all audio playback thru the speakers that were used for ARC calibration. One of the ARC competitors, released a tool for this use with their software a while back. You guys might want to consider doing the same. The above works great, but it is a bit fiddly to get setup initially.

[ericar]

Thank you so much Chris for your post on how to listen to music through ARC. I am always impressed with people like you that take the time to help others. This setup seems to work great on my computer.

Eric Arseneau

[JayBayAye8]

Would you say ARC and room correction in general is a sufficient replacement for acoustic treatment? Does it really get the job done that well, or close enough to warrant skipping out on building a ton of absorption panels?

[era.mikkola]

For Mac users, this looks pretty promising: https://www.menubus.audio
Downloading it now and yes, using it only in my project studio for getting used to how Tidal, iTunes, Spotify etc. will sound in my room while ARC 2 is on. This is something that should be on coming future versions on ARC Maybe a standalone version of ARC? Cheers!

-Era

[Nick Donaldson]

Thanks for suggesting MenuBus! Works amazing!!

[willynanita]

For Mac users, this looks pretty promising: https://www.menubus.audio
Downloading it now and yes, using it only in my project studio for getting used to how Tidal, iTunes, Spotify etc. will sound in my room while ARC 2 is on. This is something that should be on coming future versions on ARC Maybe a standalone version of ARC? Cheers!

-Era

+1 Yes, this is really needed.

I mix in cubase with ARC, but when I listen my mixes in Windows (iTunes, VLC, etc) they do not sound good.

The alternatives are very difficult to set up (Virtual Audio Cable, etc). I haven't been able to make it work. We need a solution from IK with a standalone (or like the SW version: System Wide).

Please IK, make ARC work as a system wide correction tool.

Willy.

[spicemix]

On Mac just use RogueAmoeba SoundSource. $29.

[spicemix]

Oh and to use SoundSource you'll need to unblock ARC, which they think is too unstable to use. IK, maybe you can work with them on resolving these instabilities and get ARC supported? The controls don't really work, but you can set it up in the DAW and then have it work in SoundSource OKish. I guess ARC is coded to expect a DAW, but what a pain to have to remember to disable it every bouncedown.

https://rogueamoeba.com/support/knowled ... udio-Units

[Peter_IK]

Oh and to use SoundSource you'll need to unblock ARC, which they think is too unstable to use. IK, maybe you can work with them on resolving these instabilities and get ARC supported? The controls don't really work, but you can set it up in the DAW and then have it work in SoundSource OKish. I guess ARC is coded to expect a DAW, but what a pain to have to remember to disable it every bouncedown.

https://rogueamoeba.com/support/knowled ... udio-Units

ARC is a fully stable plugin in the supported formats. Not quite sure what their issue is, but I'm sure the team would assist them if they reached out to http://www.ikmultimedia.com/contact-support

[tomboudiboudi]

It is the best way to get used to how your mix should sound with arc on - listen through arc to alot of reference tracks.

HERE IS HOW IT CAN BE DONE INTERNALLY IN WINDOWS:

You need to run Windows Systemaudio through an audiorouter into a VSThost running ARC that outputs it to your speaker via the Windowsdriver or Asiodriver of your Soundcard.

THESE ARE THE STEPS:

Download: VB audio Cable http://vb-audio.pagesperso-orange.fr/Cable/ [audiorouter]
Download: Savihost http://www.hermannseib.com/english/savihost.htm [VSThost]
[both are donationware]

Install VB audiocable and select it as standard audio out in Windows. Copy savihost.exe to where your 32bit "ARC 2.dll" is located. Rename it to "ARC 2.exe". Run it as admin. In Savihost go to "devices" chose "wave". Select "CABLE output" as the input and your audiointerface as the output (may need to play around what works best).

All Windows audio will now run through arc. (Browser/Audioplayer aso)

Send a copy of savihost to desktop, generating a shortcut. Copy and paste that to windows autostart folder so it will be started everytime you boot up Windows.

Win7: C:\Users\yourusername\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Window s\Start Menu\Programs\Startup

Hope that helps.

Cheers, Chris

Hi Chris and thanks for sharing this trick !

It's just about to work perfectly fine on my setup, but there is an odd thing I can't manage to fix : to avoid audio crackles while playback, I need to crank up the buffer to maximum (11025 samples, which is crazy high). You could guess the latency is going crazy too...

It's really weird, I'm running an i7 3,4Ghz stable / 3,8Ghz turbo, with 32 GB ram and 2Tb Samsung Evo Plus SSD, and I usually don't need to go over 256 samples in Ableton to get pure stable audio.
Is there anything linked to choosing DS other MME in Wave menu ?

Being able to listen to albums/references tracks through ARC corrections is amazing, but my latency is a pain in the ***... so if anyone have any thought, feel free to share