DIY: Swapping the synth in my Uno Pro Key with the X?

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DIY: Swapping the synth in my Uno Pro Key with the X?

Postby Vekedavef » Thu May 30, 2024 3:49 pm

I was wondering how hard it could be to swap the machines for my keyboard. The Uno Pro desktop and keyboard are the same I think, extra direct power for my keyboard. Maybe the same connections are still inside the Pro X for the wheels and the key bed??
I will understand if I get no replies, but it would be fun to know. Thanks.
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Re: DIY: Swapping the synth in my Uno Pro Key with the X?

Postby IkUser09 » Fri Dec 06, 2024 10:47 pm

Thanks to recent black friday deals, I had the occasion to compare both machines side by side. Frankly, I do not see any reason to swap the machines. My impressions so far:

* The x obviously is different from the Pro. E.g. obvious things like its UI, FX engine or the third envelope. The updated UI is a progress. Having used Waldorf Microwave I and microQ, however, I do not understand why the X still used pots instead of rotaries. E.g. this makes it impossible to do standard sound design stuff like finetuning the attack times of amp, filter, and pitch envelopes reasonably.
* The x is different to the Pro in less obvious regards, e.g. the filters and envelopes behave slightly different.
* I was able to replicate X patches on the Pro. For some patches, I didn't manage to get the result replicated 1:1, but close enough to get pleasing results.
* The 3rd envelope is a plus, but remember that the Pro offers LFO fade times as modulation source which also can be used as a rudimentary envelope.
* One of the X patches I recreated on the Pro this very eve was »On the road«. It took me a couple of minutes to get it right on the Pro (and the result is not a perfect copy to the X), but I had a lot of fun with this patch on the Pro. To crank the filter cutoff by the mod wheel immediately kicks in the Zawinul feeling when soloing.

So my verdict is, you do not necessarily need an X, but you need the patience to create the right patches on the Pro by our own. I really wonder why there aren't any classic 3rd party patches e.g. by Matt Johnson, Luke Neptune, Nicholas Semrad, Ultimate Patches and the like. IMO the Uno Synths easily outperform much more expensive engines like the Pro 3, but the patches provided for Pro and Pro X simply do not unveil the capabilities of those synths.
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Re: DIY: Swapping the synth in my Uno Pro Key with the X?

Postby Vekedavef » Sat Dec 07, 2024 3:43 am

Thank you for the feedback. I agree how great of a deal the Uno synths are. I need the keyboard, not the tabletop version, Pro or Pro X, so I am happy with what I have.
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Re: DIY: Swapping the synth in my Uno Pro Key with the X?

Postby eLoanWarehouse » Mon Dec 16, 2024 6:48 am

Swapping the IK Multimedia UNO Synth Pro Key with another unit like the UNO Synth X can refresh your sound setup. However, it's important to consider factors such as physical compatibility, power requirements, MIDI integration, sound engine and features, modding and technical know-how, and alternative options like external synth modules or hybrid setups. The UNO Synth X has a three-oscillator paraphonic analog engine and built-in effects, so it's essential to compare its sound engine and features. If the keyboard firmware is tied to the original synth, it might need to be bypassed or updated. Alternatives to swapping include connecting the UNO Synth X externally using MIDI or USB, using both synths in tandem, and considering the resale value of the unit. Overall, swapping is possible with technical expertise, but considering the resale value is crucial.
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