AT5 CD and/or Tonex for in-the-box guitar VI

[Dark Lane]

Hi Folks

Maybe because it's been a long day and my brain has turned to mush but I'm struggling to work out how to use Amplitube and/or Tonex as plug-ins inside my DAW.

All my songs are created in the box using RealStrat VI and (up until today) Amplitube 5 CS so I'm not interested in sampling my own hardware, I want this purely for 'playback'. I've now downloaded Tonex, had a play with the standalone version and read the manual so ready to start using in my DAW.

So it seems I can either insert Tonex as a single plug-in after my RealStrat VI or continue with AT5 or have both. Plus I can select Tonex Models within the amp section of AT5, in other words nesting one pug-in within another.

My question is, what are the pro's and con's of each approach? Am I missing out if I just use the Tonex plug-in (as it doesn't allow additional time based pedals to be added e.g. flangers). Any good training resources that go through this in more detail?

Longer term, is it likely Tonex will replace AT and this is just a transition phase or are they two separate but overlapping products that will continue to co-exist?

Thanks

[Peter_IK]

Good questions. Using TONEX inside AmpliTube 5 gives you the benefits you've mentioned (using effects etc that TONEX cannot capture) and the amps, cabs, and stomps are created with different technology so they have different pros and cons.

AmpliTube and TONEX are separate products that are integrated and which will continue to co-exist due to their different approaches.

Here's an explanation we've posted elsewhere that explains the differences between the two:

AmpliTube TONEX will not make AmpliTube 5 obsolete, it works with AmpliTube 5. AmpliTube and TONEX are two different products using different technologies: AmpliTube is made using analog modeling technology while TONEX uses a new technology called AI machine modeling ( https://www.amplitube.com/ai ). While analog modeling simulates the behavior of the whole circuit of the amp - with all the knobs, switches, buttons and their interactions - AI machine modeling gives an ultra-realistic simulation of the rig with a specific knob settings. So it's not that one technology is "better" than the other, it depends of what the final user's needs are: full editing and customization versus accuracy in getting a specific sound. Using them together gives of course the best of both worlds and a super-powerful amp-sim system.

The two products are also different because AmpliTube can simulate the entire set up used in guitar recording (multiple serial and parallel rigs combining amps, all type of stomp effects, post effects, cabinets and microphones, etc.. with full editing down to the single gear), while TONEX is dedicated to simulates just amp, cabinets and certain type of pedals (distortions, overdrive, fuzz, EQ, boost) in each of their combinations. However TONEX can be used inside AmpliTube, as a sub-system of amps and pedals, again to have the best of both worlds.

[Dark Lane]

Thanks Peter, that's very useful.

Are there any plans to create some YouTube videos on the IK channel to go into this in more detail e.g. demonstrating using both products in a DAW? As discussed above, it's not obvious how to use them together and some simple examples would be really helpful

Cheers