How do I install without re-installing samples?

[XilburQost]

I recently built a new Windows 11 PC and I'm moving my IK Multimedia (Syntronic, Amplitube, etc.) content the new system. The issue is that I already have my IK Multimedia audio samples and other content--28GB worth--installed on an external USB SSD. How do I install my IK Multimedia onto my new system without re-downloading 28GB worth of samples?

I installed IK Multimedia Product Manager onto my new PC and set the Content Location to point at the existing samples, however when I then installed my first products (Amplitube 4 & 5), it appeared to download _all_ the content (I base this upon how long it took to download), then overwrote the existing content. Data usage is precious; is there a way to use my existing samples and data? Thanks!

[DarkStar]

Well, from what you have posted, your library has already been overwritten by the downloads / installs run from the IKPM. The only thing that you would have lost are any factory presets (or instruments?) that you modified but saved with the same name.

I am not clear whether you now have one or two Libraries installed.

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For the future, I would have proceeded as follows:
-- use the IKPM to install all the software products,
-- move the already-installed library to the desired location,
-- run each relevant software product, set the desired location on the Preferences (it will probably rebuild the cached database, so go get a coffee)

Ignore whatever IKPM report about those libraries NB: you may need to get any further Sounds Updates later.

[XilburQost]

DarkStar, thank you for your response and suggestions, however, I don't think I understand. Let me put it another way:

In in addition to IK Multimedia products--which I love! I also use virtual instruments by Native Instruments, Spitfire Audio and Waves Audio, each of which, like IK Multimedia's Syntronic, rely upon large, multi-GB sample libraries. Unlike IK Multimedia's installers, the installers for these other products offer an option for identifying and locating existing sample libraries, sparing you having to re-download the libraries themselves; I see no such option in the IK Multimedia installers, and based upon what you told me, I'm obliged to re-download all 28 GB of the IK Multimedia samples in order to complete the installation.

[DarkStar]

Sorry I was not clear. In my list I suggested using the IKPM to install ONLY the software.

Then, using Explorer / Finder, copy the library that you have already installed to the desired location.

Then run (or load in a DAW) the appropriate software products and select that new library location.

There is no option in the iKPM to "skip the downloads and re-use existing library" (but I believe that that is on the iKPM Wish List).

Hope that helps.
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Can you post whether you now have one or two copies of the libraries installed?

[XilburQost]

Sounds like you're saying that I can point IK Multimedia products at the sample libraries from within the DAW itself (I use Reaper for Windows). Sounds like something I can try, and I'm assuming that when I install the Syntronic products there's a way to install the software sans sample libraries, correct?

[DarkStar]

That would be what I would try - but I have not done this since the IKPM was released. Before that I had done it for SampleTank 2 and 3 when setting up a new PC.

If you have any concerns then consult Technical Support first.

[XilburQost]

I sent an e-mail to support. Thank you for your help.

[- IK User -]

Something that can be done to avoid this in the future is log into your account, in your user area choose "my products," then when you are on the page all your registered products/serials are listed choose "past releases" of the products you want to download, proceed to download the most current releases and/or any other past releases you would like, then save them along with your sample sound content on your external hard drive. That way if a situation like this ever comes up again, you will not have to download anything, just reinstall with the installers you already downloaded and saved. However keep in mind, if there are any updated new releases released after you download them, it will be the releases you downloaded, not those. So if you wanted back-ups of those, you would have to log back in and download them and either trash the older releases and replace them with the newer releases or just keep them around along with the newer releases.

The Syntronik sample installers and the Syntronik plug-in installer are two different things if I am not incorrect, which I have been known to be a little off base from time to time, so that is not an impossiblity. lol. You should be able to download the latter and then just direct it to the samples and hit rescan. Before the Product Manager, I remember downloading Syntronik Deluxe installers for the sound content and the plug-in installer separately. While in Syntronik 2's case I believe I did the same thing, only difference is I used the Product Manager for downloading the plug-in while I downloaded the new sound content from the site. I did not have all the presets included until I downloaded the new sound content installers and installed them separately from downloading Syntronik 2 using the Product Manager which is what leads me to that conclusion.

[- IK User -]

I think how it is set up is this. Anyone can go ahead and download the free Syntronik 2 CE version with the Product Manager and go ahead and use 1st version Syntronik and Syntronik Deluxe presets with it. However there is additional CS sound content as well you can download on the site if you choose "sounds download" in the My Products section. Then if you upgrade to Syntronik 2 or Syntronik 2 MAX, nothing changes with the Syntronik 2 plug-in downloaded when you download the free CS version, but to get the additional new sound content you have to download the new sound content installers and install it.

So yeah, I do not think the sample sound content is downloaded when you download the Syntronik plug-in with the Product Manager because the sound content is downloaded separately. Now if you already have some sound content downloaded, it may show up in the Syntronik plug-in if you download it, but I do not think much, if any at all, sound content is installed with the installation of the plug-in itself. Though again, I possibly could be wrong. But I think I am pretty close to how it works.

[- IK User -]

Here is an idea. How about just make the sound content available of all instruments that require downloading it separately in the Product Manager so people can download it as well using the Product Manager?

Or wait maybe you already can under the "sounds" tab. However what is confusing me on that is that Syntronik 2 already showed installed when I did not have all the sound content installed and had to install it from the My Products section on the site. I downloaded the free CS version and used it for a little while, then later came into possession of Syntronik 2 which I got apart of the Total Studio 3.5 bundle, but afterwards under the sounds tab it showed installed so I was operating under the assumption everything was already installed until later I connected the dots that I needed to download additional Syntronik 2 sound content which I did from the site considering under the sounds tab Syntronik 2 was showing nothing more to install.

That is to say, Syntronik 2 and all the synths contained in it sounds were all showing installed in the Product Manager when I only had the sound content for the first two Syntronik versions (Syntronik and Deluxe) and the free Syntronik 2 CS version installed after I registered Syntronik 2 and had more sound content to install.

[- IK User -]

I can't remember if I registered the serial for Syntronik 2 in the Product Manager individually though (I did for one instrument, but I think that was SampleTron) considering I registered the entire Total Studio 3.5 at one time and then went about installing in the Product Manager anything that was showing that needed to be installed afterwards. Maybe if I put in the Syntronik 2 serial individually in the Product Manager, that would of made a difference. Not sure. But Syntronik 2, as well as all the other products that I got in my Total Studio 3.5 bundle, were registered when I registered the Total Studio 3.5 Bundle and afterwards some things were showing that they needed to be installed in the Product Manager, so obviously the Product Manager picked up on the registration.

[- IK User -]

I just noticed something that escaped my attention earlier. I did not have SampleTron 2 downloaded (as in downloading it on the site in the My Products section under past releases so to have a back-up I can quickly access if want to reinstall it for some reason). I just downloaded it with the Product Manager and the installer to download it as well as the sound content installers are already saved in the SampleTron 2 folder. So I suppose the Product Manager may automatically do that for you. Otherwise I have no clue how the installers already were downloaded in the folder.

If that is indeed the case, then if one wants to reinstall all one would have to do is go to the folder of the instrument downloaded with the Product Manager and open the installer folder and download it instead of using the method I pointed out which results in basically the same thing minus the trouble of having to download it yourself and then saving it in the folder. And if one does not want to reinstall the sound content, just do not install the sound content using the sound content installers. Then once you reinstall, or install for the first time on a computer, in the Project Manager it should show it is installed even though you did not download it with the Project Manager and used the saved installer downloaded the first time around.