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Re: Is anyone offended by ToneNet?

Postby cliftond » Mon Sep 26, 2022 6:07 pm

No
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Re: Is anyone offended by ToneNet?

Postby livesforrap » Tue Sep 27, 2022 3:36 pm

cliftond wrote:No


Straight forward, no nonsense, right to the point :lol: AND as a bonus, very few posts over many years!

TONEX will be a serious experiment. Again, we'll see .... a 174 USD virtual paperweight, or the next big thing. Magic 8 ball says: We just don't know.
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Re: Is anyone offended by ToneNet?

Postby Peter_IK » Tue Sep 27, 2022 4:08 pm

Real working guitarists like it, and captured a Princeton in less-than-optimal conditions that people say sounds great in the video so we kind of know :D

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Re: Is anyone offended by ToneNet?

Postby carlaz » Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:45 pm

I've long thought that AmpliTube was not so much a "product" as a "platform" (through which one deployed the "products", which were the actual gear models, purchased in bundles or separately). Tonex kind of reinforces that notion -- except that now it's more like there is an "IKM guitar/bass processing platform", and models from AmpliTube (simulations) and Tonex (profiles/captures) all play within it. (Though, yes, I realize that Tonex models are not yet completely interoperable within AmpliTube, though clearly that's how it will be soon enough.)

Perhaps it is likewise only a matter of time before actual T-RackS models likewise roll in? (OK, those are perhaps aimed at a slightly different, if overlapping, market -- but, still ....)
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Re: Is anyone offended by ToneNet?

Postby carlaz » Thu Jan 30, 2025 1:50 pm

TONEX is a different product than AmpliTube -- even though both are produced by IK Multimedia and TONEX can work within AmpliTube.

AmpliTube provides digital models of guitar/bass equipment. Put simply, digital models are just that: a digital re-creation of the effects of analog signal paths and physical equipment. It's sitting down and saying "what happens to an electrical current when passing through this physical object (cable, transformer, vacuum tube, etc.) is X, so I will write a program that causes X to happen when you send such an electrical current to your computer and tell the software about it". A whole bunch of such routines can represent a complete model of what the physical components of a pedal or an amplifier or whatever does.

TONEX creates and applies what IKM calls "captures". Put simply, by running test signals through any given piece of physical equipment or combination of equipment (within limits: e.g., not currently gear intended to produce modulation or time-based effects, etc.), the software can analyze what happens to that signal and produce a digital "capture" -- like a snapshot" of that piece or gear or combination of gear so that when you send a guitar signal to that digital "capture", it has basically the same effect on the sound as the (combination of) gear that was "captured".

These are two different approaches to achieving similar results, resulting in two different products with different characteristics and features. Because of the differing natures of the individual products, one can use TONEX "captures" of amps or distortion pedals (or their combination) within AmpliTube, but one cannot use AmpliTube models within TONEX (though I would presume that the recent modulation/time-based effects added to TONEX are in some way derived from the programming used for similar effects in AmpliTube).

So, while I am sure that there could be better and more technical explanations, I think that's basically it.
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