ARC Studio room correction ON TOP of MTM room calibration?

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ARC Studio room correction ON TOP of MTM room calibration?

Postby Mwie » Wed Feb 28, 2024 2:10 am

If you own monitors, that allow you to calibrate them to your room, should you remove that calibration before adding the ARC Studio room correction, or should you add it on top?

For example:
My iloud MTMs are calibrated to my room, with their internal calibration options. Should I first undo that calibration before adding the ARC 4 room correction that comes with ARC Studio, or should I keep it on and "stack" the ARC 4 room correction on top?


My intuition tells me that "EQing on top of EQing" could cause issues and to thus remove the calibration first. But I don't know and would really want some competent input on this topic. This is very important to me!
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Re: ARC Studio room correction ON TOP of MTM room calibratio

Postby vac713 » Wed Feb 28, 2024 3:57 pm

Start from scratch. Put your MTMs back to factory state.; Set them flat then proceed with the ARC4 setup.
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Re: ARC Studio room correction ON TOP of MTM room calibratio

Postby KSR12345 » Thu Feb 29, 2024 3:20 pm

Excuse me, just for my understanding and learning: why should one use a ARC software, when having a hardware integrated ARC? Before i bought the MTM i had speakers and a ACR from other vendors. I'm not a pro, still listener/user, my ears suggest to me, that the built in ACR does its job very well.

Greetings from Germany
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Re: ARC Studio room correction ON TOP of MTM room calibratio

Postby Mwie » Fri Mar 01, 2024 3:48 am

vac713 wrote:Start from scratch. Put your MTMs back to factory state.; Set them flat then proceed with the ARC4 setup.


Thank you for your input. What's the logic behind it? Avoiding phase-issues caused by EQ on top of EQ?

KSR12345 wrote:Excuse me, just for my understanding and learning: why should one use a ARC software, when having a hardware integrated ARC? Before i bought the MTM i had speakers and a ACR from other vendors. I'm not a pro, still listener/user, my ears suggest to me, that the built in ACR does its job very well.

Greetings from Germany
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Multiple possible reasons why one may want to use the ARC Studio over the integrated ARC of the MTMs:

1. The ARC Studio will run a newer and better version.
2. The integrated ARC of the small MTMs (not the Precision MTMs) doesn't require as many measurements points and thus can't possibly be as good - even if it ran the same exact "software".
3. The ARC Studio will allow you to create multiple profiles that you can switch between in the ARC 4 software. Which also features simulations of other listening environments.
4. You may have multiple speaker sets and want to run them all through the same room correction software for more similar results. (Yes, they all get their own profile, but still.)

Hope that helped!

PS: Obviously, there is less of an incentive to use ARC Studio with speakers that already come with integrated correction than with regular speakers.
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Re: ARC Studio room correction ON TOP of MTM room calibratio

Postby KSR12345 » Fri Mar 01, 2024 4:20 am

Thank you.
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Re: ARC Studio room correction ON TOP of MTM room calibratio

Postby ickymedia » Tue Aug 27, 2024 12:11 am

Hi, i just got iLoud MTM mk2. you can run onboard calibration, or you can use USB and run the calibration using the ARC software and do 4-point measurement.

An instructor suggested I get a subwoofer and ARC Studio. I know i have a big room resonance at 45hz so I know the subwoofer will only make it worse, so i'm thinking that I should NOT get a subwoofer. So i'd just rely on the calibration of my Mk2's and the ARC software and do some treatment in my room to absorb some bass.

If I'm only using my iLoud MTM mk2's (no subwoofer), is there any reason at all to use ARC Studio? As I said above, you can run 4-point calibration of the mk2's using ARC software, so I don't see any advantage of ARC Studio, it would be totally redundant.

Any info you can give me on this would be greatly appreciated. My instructor has the first version of the iLoud MTM's so I think he doesn't know the capabilities of the mk2's concerning onboard calibration (or that it's possible to use the ARC software via X-Monitor).
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