Full list of 1.300 sounds missing from SampleTank 4 MAX

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Full list of 1.300 sounds missing from SampleTank 4 MAX

Postby ghavet3 » Sun Feb 27, 2022 3:34 pm

Dear users,

I recently bought SampleTank 4 MAX. Each file has been uploaded and installed properly in my 4.1.6 (21L01) version.

I rapidly notices than tens of sounds were missing.

Asked about it, IK Multimedia seems to evade the debate and answers with irrelevant points.

Being a fierce neird, I've decided to test each and any of the 8.000 sounds claimed to be inside SampleTank 4 MAX which are listed in the two pdf analogous files published by IK multimedia on his site, which are "SampleTank_4_comparison" (211 pages document) and "SampleTank_MAX_Instruments" (360 pages document).

I've found an astonishing number of more than 1.300 missing sounds that I publish here. I've put the relevant number page of the "SampleTank_MAX_Instruments" in front of each.

I hope to get some support from IK Multimedia's users who should check this list and test their own version with the help of the two aforementioned files.

I hope that the public opinion will make IK's managers react and upgrade their product to match their affirmation and fill the dearth.

LIST OF THE 1300 instruments missing from SampleTank 4 MAX

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Jazz Upright Piano p. 6
Euphonium Articulations p. 21
Flugel Horn Articulations p. 22
French Horn Articulations p. 23
Trombone 1 Articulations p. 24
Trombone 2 Articulations p. 24
Trumpet 1 Articulations p. 25
Trumpet 2 Articulations p. 26
Tuba Articulations  p. 27
Accordion p. 74
Anklungs Full_KSW p. 74
Arabic Oud p. 74
Bagpipes p. 74
Balalaika p. 75
Banjo p. 75 (ST3, not ST 2 XL)
Bottle blow p. 75
Bouzouki 2 p. 75
Bouzouki Tremolo 2 p. 75
Bouzouki p. 75
Chinese Ocarina p. 75
Conch Shell p. 75
Crotales p. 75
Cumbus p. 75
Dulcimer 2 p. 75
Dulcimer Flourish p. 75
Dulcimer Long p. 75
Dulcimer Tremolo p. 75
Gamelan Full_VSW p. 75
Indian Hunting Horn p. 75
Irish Penny Whistle p. 75
Kalimba 3 p. 76
Koto p. 76
Mandolin p. 76
Native American Flute Attacks p. 76
Pungi Snake Charmer p. 76
Santour Flourish p. 76
Santour Long Notes p. 76
Santour Tremolo p. 76
Saz p. 76
Shamisen p. 76
Sitar p. 76
Tamboura Drone p 76
Tamboura p. 76
Temple Bells p. 76
Turkish Oud Long Notes p 76
Turkish Oud Tremolo p 76
Turkish Oud Vibrato p 76
Anklungs Flams p. 76
Anklungs Hits p. 76
Anklungs Shakes p. 76
Anklungs Split p. 76
Bottle Lead Guitar p. 76
Bouzouki_KSW p. 76
Bouzouki_MSW p. 76
Bouzouki_VSW p. 77
Dulcimer Full_KSW p. 77
Gamelan Hard Mallet p. 77
Gamelan Med Mallet p. 77
Gamelan Soft Mallet p. 77
Kalimba 1 p.77
Kalimba 2 p. 77
Log Drum 1 p. 77
Log Drum 2 p. 77
Log Drum 3 p. 77
Log Drum Cameroon p. 77
Santour Full_KSW
Temple Gong p. 77
Tibetan Bells p. 77
Ting Shaw Bell p. 77
Turkish Oud Full_KSW p. 77
Accordion LHand p. 77
Accordion Musette p. 77
Baglamas p. 77
Bamboo Flute p. 77
Bandoneon p. 78
Bang Di Vibrato p. 78
Bang Di p. 78
Chromatic Harmonica p. 78
Concertina p. 78
GS Recorder p. 78
Harmonica p. 78
Indian Flute p. 78
Kalimba Thumb p. 78
Mandolin V-trem
Ocarina p. 78
Pipa A p. 78
Kudi in G Flutter 2 p. 78
Scaccia p. 78
Shakuhachi p. 78
Sitar p. 78
Tampura p. 78
Whistle p 78
World Accordion p. 78
Yangqin Forte p. 78
Yangqin Gliss p. 78
Zheng Cont Gliss p. 78
Zheng Gliss p. 78
Zheng p. 78
Accord E On p. 79
Accord LH Mellow p. 79
Aguaflute p. 79
Alley Ccord p. 79
Anaflutarian p. 79
Bend Flute p. 79
Blues Harp 1 p. 79
Clowny Synth p. 79
Copterflute p. 79
Crazy Horse Fly p. 79
Dark Tambura p. 79
David A Stretchflute p. 79
Deep Sleep Flute p. 79
Dpuble Reed Stretch p. 79
Dr Wheeler p. 79
ET Folkster p. 79
Exotic Flute p. 79
Exotica Winderness p. 79
Expressive MW p. 79
Floozy Flute p. 79
Flute Chore Pad p. 79
Flutoneian p. 79
Flutophone Port p. 79
Form Flute p. 79
Formant Synflute p. 79
FutureCordian p. 80
Gabriel Would Like It p. 80
Haunting Flute p. 80
Home Range p. 80
Kerzoo Flute p. 80
Lambient Flute p. 80
Loss Of T p. 80
Low Harmodion p. 80
Molten Metal p. 80
Mood Flute p. 80
Mountain Top p. 80
OB the Company p. 80
Ocarina Smooth p. 80
Outter Lead p. 80
Passion For Stretch p. 80
Passion Formant p.  80
Phasey Hazey p. 80
Shaku 2 p.80
Shankar Would Too p. 80
Sixties Dreamland p. 80
Smaller p. 80
Space ensieri p. 80
Squeeze Boxian p. 80
Squeeze Strch Box p. 80
Superlo Flute p. 80
Sweet Bambini p. 81
Synfluticus MAximus p. 81
Tambura Drone p.81
Theme Harmonica p. 81
Then 3 Whistle p. 81
WildStretch on Sitar MW p. 81
Clean Power Chords p. 90
Single Coil 1 Bridge Clean p. 90
Single Coil 1 Clean Harmonics p. 90
Single Coil 1 Mute Clean p. 90
Single Coil 1 N+M Clean p. 90
Single Coil 1 Noises Clean p. 91
Delay Muted Clean p. 91
Dist Power Chords 1 p. 91
Dist Power Chords 2 p. 91
Single Coil 1 Bridge Clean_KSW p. 91
Single Coil 1 Bridge Clean_MSW p. 91
Single Coil 1 Bridge Dist_KSW p. 91
Single Coil 1 Bridge Dist_MSW p. 91
Single Coil 1 Bridge Dist p. 91
Single Coil 1 Bridge Extreme_KSW p. 91
Single Coil 1 Bridge Extreme_MSW p. 91
Single Coil 1 Bridge Extreme p. 91
Single Coil 1 Dist Harmonics p. 91
Single Coil 1 Mute Dist p. 91
Single Coil 1 N+M Lead p. 91
Single Coil 1 N+M Light Crunch p. 91
Single Coil 1 Noises Dist p. 91
Single Coil 1 Noises Sat p. 91
Humbucker LP B+N Clean p. 92
Humbucker LP Bridge Clean p. 92
Humbucker LP Harm Clean p. 92
Humbucker LP Mute Clean p. 92
Humbucker LP Neck Clean p. 92
Humbucker LP Noises Clean p. 92
Humbucker LP PowerChrds Clean p. 92
Humbucker LP B+N Jazz p. 92
Humbucker LP B+N Mod Dist p. 92
Humbucker LP B+N Vint Dist p. 92
Humbucker LP Bridge Clean_KSW p. 92
Humbucker LP Bridge Clean_MSW p. 92
Humbucker LP Bridge Jazz p. 92
Humbucker LP Bridge Mod Dist_KSW p. 92
Humbucker LP Bridge Mod Dist_MSW p. 92
Humbucker LP Bridge Mod Dist p. 92
Humbucker LP Bridge Vint Dist_KSW p. 92
Humbucker LP Bridge Vint Dist_MSW p. 92
Humbucker LP Bridge Vint Dist p. 92
Humbucker LP Harm Modern Dist p. 92
Humbucker LP Mute Mod Dist p. 92
Humbucker LP Mute Stereo Distxml p. 92
Humbucker LP Mute Vint Dist p. 92
Humbucker LP Neck Jazz p. 93
Humbucker LP Neck Mod Dist p. 93
Humbucker LP Neck Vint Dist p. 93
Humbucker LP Noises Mod Dist p. 93
Humbucker LP Noises Tube Dist p. 93
Humbucker LP PowerChrds Mod Dist p. 93
Humbucker LP PowerChrds Vint Dist p. 93
Humbucker 175 B+N 1 p. 93
Humbucker 175 B+N 2 p. 93
Humbucker 175 Bridge 1 p. 93
Humbucker 175 Bridge 2 p. 93
Humbucker 175 Neck 1 p. 93
Humbucker 175 Neck 2 p. 93
Humbucker 175 B+N 3 p. 93
Humbucker 175 B+N 4 p. 93
Humbucker 175 B+N 5 p. 93
Humbucker 175 B+N 6 p. 93
Humbucker 175 B+N 7 p. 93
Humbucker 175 Bridge 3 p. 93
Humbucker 175 Bridge 4 p. 93
Humbucker 175 Bridge 5 p. 93
Humbucker 175 Bridge 6 p. 93
Humbucker 175 Bridge 7 p. 93
Humbucker 175 Neck 3 p. 93
Humbucker 175 Neck 4 p. 93
Humbucker 175 Neck 5 p. 94
Humbucker 175 Neck 6 p. 94
Humbucker 345 FW Bridge 1 p. 94
Humbucker 345 FW Bridge 2 p. 94
Humbucker 345 FW Neck 1 p. 94
Humbucker 345 FW Neck 2 p. 94
Humbucker 345 FW Bridge p. 94
Humbucker 345 FW Bridge 4 p. 94
Humbucker 345 FW Bridge 5 p. 94
Humbucker 345 FW Bridge 6 p. 94
Humbucker 345 FW Neck 3 p. 94
Humbucker 345 FW Neck 4 p.94
Humbucker 345 FW Neck 5 p. 94
Humbucker 345 FW Neck 6 p. 94
Humbucker 345 RW Bridge 1 p. 94
Humbucker 345 RW Bridge 2 p. 94
Humbucker 345 RW Bridge 3 p. 94
Humbucker 345 RW Bridge 4 p. 94
Humbucker 345 RW Bridge 5 p. 94
Humbucker 345 RW Bridge 6 p. 94
Humbucker 345 RW Neck 1 p. 94
Humbucker 345 RW Neck 2 p. 94
Humbucker 345 RW Neck 3 p. 94
Humbucker 345 RW Neck 4 p. 94
Humbucker 345 RW Neck 5 p. 94
Humbucker 345 RW Neck 6 p. 95
Jazz Hollow Body p. 95
Percussive Baritone p. 95
Single Coil 2 Bridge 1 p. 95
Single Coil 2 Bridge 2 p. 95
Single Coil 2 Middle 1 p. 95
Single Coil 2 Middle 2 p. 95
Single Coil 2 Neck 1 p. 95
Single Coil 2 Neck 2 p. 95
Single Coil 2 Bridge 3 p. 95
Single Coil 2 Bridge 4 p. 95
Single Coil 2 Bridge 5 p. 95
Single Coil 2 Bridge 6 p. 95
Single Coil 2 Middle 3 p. 95
Single Coil 2 Middle 4 p. 95
Single Coil 2 Middle 5 p. 95
Single Coil 2 Middle 6 p. 96
Single Coil 2 Neck 3 p. 95
Single Coil 2 Neck 4 p. 95
Single Coil 2 Neck 5 p. 95
Single Coil 2 Neck 6 p. 95
Blues STR p. 95
Carlos p. 95
Clean LP p. 95
Clean LP 2 p. 96
Clean STR Modern p. 96
Clean STR p. 96
Crunch LP 1 p. 96
Crunch LP 2 p. 96
Crunch STR 1 p. 96
Crunch STR 2 p. 96
Crunch STR Ambience p. 96
Drive LP p. 96
Edged p. 96
Electric 12 p. 96
Electro Strato p. 96
Fuzz LP p. 96
Heavy Metal Chords p. 96
Heavy Metal p. 96
Jazz chorus STR p. 96
Lead STR p. 96
Lead UK LP p. 96
Lead US LP p. 96
Muted STR 1 p. 96
Muted STR 2 p. 96
Rotary Crunch p. 96
SRV p. 96
Stereo Clean STR p. 96
Summer STR p. 96
Tremolo STR p. 97
Wah Clean LP p. 97
Wah Crunch STR p. 97
Wah LP Distorted p. 97
Wah STR Muted p. 97
Wah STR p. 97
Amazin Mod p. 97
Ambiana Guitar p. 97
Amp A Lee Tubwa p. 97
Ampalee Bwa Bwa p. 97
Auto Wah p. 97
Bee Fuzzed p. 97
Bi Phase WaterGuitar p. 97
Blue Bro p. 97
Bluesman p. 97
Bostonian Gtr p. 97
Caked p. 97
Carlfiltered p. 97
Chords Glow p. 97
Chore Crunch p. 97
Chorus Arpeggios p. 97
Chris At Shuckums p. 97
Chunky UK GTR p. 97
Clap Ton p. 97
Complex Leslie p. 97
Cool GTR Arpeggios p. 98
Crank It Phaseman p. 98
Crunch Cab p. 98
Crunchy Frogtr p. 98
Cry Baby Hero p. 98
Dirty Clean GTR p. 98
Dirty Dog p. 98
Distraction p. 98
Driven Flange p. 98
Edge Edge Edge p. 98
Fictional Love p. 98
Formerly Prints p. 98
Freep p. 98
Friender p. 98
Frooky p. 98
Fuzz 2 Fuzz p. 98
Fuzz Muffin Bistro p. 98
Fuzztonez p. 98
G. Slumbers p. 98
Gamelatar p. 98
Goodman Rocks p. 98
Hawaian Guitar p. 98
Heavy Carl p. 98
Jimmy p. 98
Less paul More Mary p. 98
Let It Go p. 99
Life Son Guitar p. 99
Liquidity Deluxe p. 99
Liquith Drano p. 99
LiteCrunch p. 99
LP into AC p. 99
Marlon Brando p. 99
Maxifuzz p. 99
McNastier p. 99
McNasty Tastey p. 99
Meljazz p. 99
Modwha Guitar p. 99
Moot Loot p. 99
Mr Clean Machine p. 99
Mucho Gracias p. 99
Mute Crunch p. 99
Mute Point p. 99
Muted LP p. 99
Muted strat2 p. 99
Muted strat3 p. 99
One a week p. 99
Over the edge p. 99
Over the line p. 99
Phase Clavitar p. 99
Pick PAD p. 99
Pink Surf p. 100
Pull Pluck Gtr p. 100
Rich Richard R. p. 100
Rockerz p. 100
RockFusion solo p.100
Roots Bass p. 100
Rosy Baby p. 100
Seventies Child p. 100
Shahist Gtr p. 100
Shine On Guitar p. 100
Smooth Jazz Gtr p. 100
Spring UP The Box p. 100
Springuitar p. 100
Spunky Funky p. 100
Squidified Guitar p. 100
Stereo Chords p. 100
Stereo Cabs lead p. 100
Stretch Slide Gtr p. 100
Summer Summers p. 100
Sunlight Festival p. 100
Swirly Gtr p. 100
T Bone p. 100
Tex In The City p. 100
Thick LP p. 100
Trem O Jaylo p. 100
Tremwah p. 101
Tubey Le 3 Guitar p. 101
Turned to Clav 1 p. 101
Turned to Clav 2 p. 101
Twang Zang p. 101
Twin p. 101
Vangelguitar p. 101
Vint Mute p. 101
Wah Phase Guitar p. 101
Waht Guitarilla p. 101
Waht wah Filt p. 101
Where the Beef Is p. 101
Wicked Weasle p. 101
Wishart guitar p. 101
Woodly Wombat p. 101
you too on the stage p. 101
Ziller p. 101
Afochè p. 102
Bembè p. 102
Checkerè p. 130
Agogos and Guri p. 132
Bongos [ST2] p. 133 or Bongos [ST3] p. 132 or Bongos [ST4]  p. 130 [two missing]
Cabasa and Maracas p. 132
Cajon [ST3] p. 132 or Cajon [ST4] p. 130  [one missing]
Congas Latin American p. 132
Cowbells, Clave and Woodblocks
Cuica [ST2] p. 133 or Cuica [ST3] p. 132 or Cuica [ST4] p. 130  [two missing]
Shakers p. 132
Shekere p. 132
Tablas 2 p. 132
Tambourines p. 132
Timbales [ST2] p 134 or Timbales [ST3] p. 132 or Timbales [ST4] p. 130  [two missing]
Udu [ST3] p. 132 or Udu [ST4] p. 130  [one missing]
Agogo [ST2] p. 132 or Agogo [ST4] p. 130  [one missing]
Berimbao p. 133
Cabasa [ST2] p. 133 or Cabasa [ST4] p. 130  [one missing]
Celesta p. 133
Congas 1 p. 133
Congas 2 p. 133
Congas 3 p. 133
Cowbell + Guiro + Vibraslap p. 133
Darabuka and Doumbek p. 133
Musical Box p. 133
Ocean Drum p. 133
Oriental Sticks drums p. 133
Pandeiru p. 133
Repinique p. 133
Shakers 1 p. 133
Shakers 2 p. 133
Slit Drum p. 133
Small Afro Hammers p. 133
Surdo 1 p. 133
Surdo 2 p. 133
Tablas p. 133
Tamborim [ST4] p. 130 or Tamborim [ST2] p. 133 [one missing]
Tambourine [ST4] p. 131 or Tambourine [ST2] p. 134 [one missing]
Tanta p. 134
Triangle [ST2] p. 134 or Triangle [ST4] p. 131
à traiter triangle p. 134
Udu Drum p. 134
Vibes 1 p. 134
Vibes 2 p. 134
Vibratone p. 134
Xylophone [ST3] p. 37 or Xylophone [ST2] p. 134 [one missing]
Agogogo 2 p. 134
Bongo Go 2 p. 134
Conga Congo p. 134
Extra lows Surdo p. 134
Filtablas p. 134
Fuji Foochi p. 134
Grungey percs p. 134
India lo p. 134
Jazz Vibes p. 134
LimSlit p. 134
Low Resonant Darabuka p. 134
Ocean 2 p. 134
Roots Pandeiru p. 134
Surdo 2b p. 134
Surdo 3 p. 134
Synth Drum p. 134
Timbale Tams p. 134
Timbalitos p. 134
tone Drums p. 134
Tone Repinique p. 134
Tone Udu p. 134
Udu Drum 2 p. 134
Basses Articulations_KSW p. 137
Cellos Articulations p. 138
Violas Articulations p. 139
Violins Articulations_KSW p. 141
U-Wha Bass p. 195
Brassy Lead A p. 225
Brassy Lead Oct p. 225
Brassy Lead Stutt p. 225
Open Brassy Lead p. 225
Dist Rave p. 225
Hi Rave Stutter p. 226
Hi Rave p. 226
Brassy Dst Lead Oct p. 226
Brassy Dst Lead p. 226
Brassy Dst Uptempo p. 226
DistSaw Lead A p. 226
DistSaw Lead B2 p. 226
DistSaw Lead C p. 226
DistSaw Lead D p. 226
Elastic Arp p. 226
Elastic Fuzz p. 226
Elastic Pad p. 226
Elastic Solo p. 226
Elastic Synth p. 226
Flute Pad p. 226
Lunar Landing p. 226
Rusty Lead p. 226
Sick Chords p. 226
Sick Pad p. 226
Solo Sick Flute p. 226
Tech Pluck p. 226
Tech Seq p. 227
Extreme AM Lead p. 227
Extreme Lead 1 p. 227
Extreme Lead 2 p. 227
Extreme Lead 3 p. 227
Extreme Lead Clean p. 227
Extreme Lead Dist p. 227
Extreme Lead FM p. 227
Open Dist Lead p. 227
Deep Lead A detuned p. 227
Deep Lead A p. 227
Deep Lead C p. 227
FastLead C p. 227
FastLead D p. 227
Hard Lead C p. 227
Hard Lead D p. 227
Hard Lead E p. 227
Hard Lead F p. 227
Hard Lead G p. 227
HardLead B p. 228
HardLead G detuned p. 228
Reso Lead B p. 228
SyntOrgan A p. 228
Filthy Lead A p. 228
Filthy Lead C p. 228
Filthy Pluck p. 228
Filthy Syn p. 228
Flange Extreme p. 228
Flange Lead A p. 228
Flange Lead B p. 228
Flange Lead Oct p. 228
Flange Stabs p. 228
Crushed Bits Extreme p. 228
TechDrops p. 228
Hollow B Detuned p. 228
Hollow B Dist p. 228
Hollow B Lead p. 228
Hollow B Notch p. 228
Hollow B Phaser p. 229
Hollow Oct Stabs p. 229
Kosk AM Mod p. 229
Kosk Extreme Dist p. 229
Kosk FLA p. 229
Kosk Solo Bitcrushed p. 229
Kosk Solo Dist p. 229
Kosk Solo Notch p. 229
Kosk Solo Oct p. 229
Kosk Solo p. 229
Kosk Stabby Lead A p. 229
Kosk Stabby Lead B p. 229
Kosk Superstereo Lead p. 229
m 3rd Dist Lead A p. 229
m 3rd Dist Lead C p. 229
m 3rd notch lead p. 229
m 3rd rotten lead p. 229
Big Solo Dist p. 229
DigiArp p. 229
Hard Flanger Lead p. 229
Hard Synth Solo Dist p. 230
LFO Stutter Lead p. 230
Nasty Arp p. 230
Nasty Seq p. 230
Noisy Lead p. 230
Reso Seq p. 230
Robophat Saw Lead p. 230
Sequencing Lead 1 p. 230
Sequencing Lead 2 p. 230
Sequencing Lead 3 p. 230
Sync Sweep Lead p. 230
Synth Guitar Lead p. 230
Mj 3rd Dist p. 230
Mj 3rd Fifths p. 230
Mj 3rd Lead Pha p. 230
Mj 3rd Seq p. 230
Oct Saw Form p. 230
Oct Saw Lead 4bits p. 230
Oct Saw Lead Cho p. 230
Oct Saw Lead Hits 2 p. 231
Oct Saw Lead Hits 3 p. 231
Oct Saw Lead Hits 4 p. 231
Oct Saw Lead Hits 5 p. 231
Oct Saw Lead Hits 6 p. 231
Oct Saw Lead Hits 7 p. 231
Oct Saw Lead Hits 8 p. 231
Oct Saw Reso p. 231
Tibetan Pad p. 231
Oct Sq Lead A p. 231
Oct Sq Lead B p. 231
Oct Sq Lead Pad p. 231
Oct Sq Lead Stab p. 231
Oct Sq Notch p. 231
Oct Sq Pad Stabs p. 231
Oct Sq Phaser p. 231
Open Phat Saw Lead p. 231
Phat Saw Arp p. 231
Phat Saw Hits 1 p. 231
Phat Saw Hits 2 p. 231
Phat Saw Hits 3 p. 231
Phat Saw Hits 6 p. 232
Phat Saw Lead 1 p. 232
Phat Saw Lead 2 p. 232
Phat Saw Notch p. 232
Phat Saw Pad X1 p. 232
Phat Saw Pad X2 p. 232
Phat Saw Pad X3 p. 232
Phat Saw Pad X4 p. 232
Phat Saw Pad p. 232
Formant Lead p. 232
Open Phat Solo p. 232
Phat Solo A p. 232
Phat Solo B p. 232
Phat Solo C p. 232
Phat Solo D p. 232
Phat Solo E p. 232
Phat Solo F p. 232
Phat Solo G p. 232
Phat Solo Hits 1 p. 232
Phat Solo Hits 2 p. 232
Phat Solo Hits 3 p. 232
Phat Solo Hits 4 p. 232
Phat Solo Hits 5 p. 232
Phat Solo Pad 1 p. 233
Phat Solo Pad 2 p. 233
Phat Solo Seq p. 233
Open Pulse Lead p. 233
Pulse L Pad A p. 233
Pulse L Pad B p. 233
Pulse Lead AM p. 233
Pulse Lead Dark p. 233
Pulse Lead Full p. 233
Pulse Lead Sat A p. 233
Rawsaw AM p. 233
Rawsaw L Pad A p. 233
Rawsaw L Pad B p. 233
Rawsaw Lead Seq A p. 233
Rawsaw Lead Seq B p. 233
Rawsaw Lead Seq D p. 233
Rawsaw Lead Seq E p. 233
Rawsaw Lead Seq F p. 233
Rawsaw Lead Seq G p. 233
Rawsaw Lead Seq H p. 233
Rawsaw Oct FM p. 234
Rawsaw Oct Seq A p. 234
Rawsaw Oct p. 234
128 Leads p. 234
Extreme Saws 1 p. 234
Extreme Saws 2 p. 234
Extreme Saws 3 p. 234
Extreme Saws 4 p. 234
Mellow Lead p. 234
Morphy Lead p. 234
Saw 1 Lead p. 234
Solid Saw 1 p. 234
Solid Saw 2 p. 234
Solid Saw 1 p. 234
Solid Saw 2 p. 234
Solid Lead A p. 234
Solid Lead B p. 234
Solid Lead C p. 234
Solid Lead D p. 234
Solid Lead Hit 1 p. 234
Solid Lead Hit 2 p. 234
Solid Lead Hit 3 p. 234
Solid Lead Hit 4 p. 234
Solid Lead Oct p. 234
Solid Lead Seq 1 p. 234
Solid Lead Seq 2 p. 234
Solid Lead Sweep A p. 235
Solid Lead Sweep B p. 235
Solid Lead Wobble A p. 235
Solid Lead Wobble B p. 235
Solid Lead Wobble C p. 235
Solid Lead Wobble D p. 235
Flangy Square Lead p. 235
Square Lead Crush 2 p. 235
Square Lead Full p. 235
Square Lead Hit 1 p. 235
Square Lead Hit 2 p. 235
Square Lead Oct p. 235
Square Lead Sat p. 235
Square Lead Seq 1 p. 235
Square Lead Seq 2 p. 235
Square Lead Seq 3 p. 235
Square Lead Seq 4 p. 235
Sync Lead A p. 235
Sync Lead B p. 235
Sync Lead Dist p. 235
Sync Lead Seq p. 235
Sync Psycho p. 235
Extreme T-Reese p. 235
T-Reese p. 235
Trancy Lead B p. 236
Trancy Lead C p. 236
Trancy Lead D p. 236
WS Lead A p. 236
WS Lead B p. 236
WS Raw Lead A p. 236
WS Raw Lead B p. 236
WS Raw Lead C p. 236
WS Raw Lead D p. 236
WS Raw Lead E p. 236
WS Raw Lead F p. 236
WS Seq p. 236
aHalf p. 236
Brass Ld p. 236
Creamy Lead p. 236
Double Sq Lead p. 236
Dry Synth p. 236
Elec Flute p. 236
Feedback Lead p. 236
Forge p. 236
Full Effect p. 236
Hard Synth p. 236
HP Synth p. 237
HPF Lead 1 p. 237
Moon Raider p. 237
Movin Sq Lead p. 237
Old Synth p. 237
Older Synth p. 237
Rabbit p. 237
Short Echoes p. 237
Sine Lead p. 237
Sub Osc p. 237
Sync PW p. 237
Tek Guitar 1 p. 237
Tek Guitar 2 p. 237
Tek Hits p. 237
Tek Seq p. 237
Tek Synth p. 237
Velo-Res Lead p. 237
AcidFunk Piano p. 237
Carny Lead p. 237
Dusty Delay Seq p. 237
Echo Calling p. 237
Hail Synth 2 p. 237
High Voltage on G1 p. 237
Machinery MW 2 p. 237
Machinery MW p. 237
Nasal Passage p. 238
Paddy Paddy MW p. 238
Perky Lead p. 238
Porta Hi Pass p. 238
Roto Lead MW p. 238
Shayna Lead p. 238
Sine Portolead p. 238
SizeMatters Bass p. 238
Synthesis EP p. 238
Therem p. 238
Thick D Lead p. 238
AcoClone Escape p. 246
AcoClone H-Piano p. 246
AcoClone Piano p. 246
AcoClone PianoSynth p. 246
Astral Keys A p. 246
Astral Keys C p. 246
Astral Keys D p. 246
Astral Pad p. 246
Open Astral Pad p. 246
Atonal Glass FX Pad p. 246
Atonal Glass p. 246
Bowed Pad p. 246
Broken Glass Pad p. 246
Breathy Atmosphere p. 246
Formant Atmosphere p. 246
Razor Wind p. 246
Resonant Chiff p. 246
Reso Pad B p. 247
Reso Pad BP 1 p. 247
Reso Pad BP 2 p. 247
Cheap Organ Pad p. 247
Floating FM p. 247
FM Cosmic Synth p. 247
FM Kpad p. 247
FM Organ Stabs p. 247
FM Staccato Synthstrings p. 247
FM Pad-FM Bass p. 247
FM Pad 2 FX p. 247
FM Pad 2 p. 247
FM Pad 3 p. 247
FM Pad 4 p. 247
FM Pad phase p. 247
FM Pipe Organ p. 247
Oct Synth p. 247
Sweep pipe A p. 247
Sweep pipe B p. 247
Ghost Dark Pad p. 248
Ghost Piano Cheap p. 248
Ghost Piano Fast p. 248
Ghost Piano slow brt p. 248
Ghost Piano slow p. 248
Ghost Real p. 248
Piano Drops 1 p. 248
Piano Drops 2 p. 248
Piano Drops X p. 248
Goblin Wind p. 248
Goblins p. 248
Hard Piano Pad B p. 248
Soft Piano Pad A p. 248
Soft Piano Pad B. p. 248
Juniper HP Sweep p. 248
Juniper Pad p. 248
Juneau Lush p. 249
Juneau Strings p. 249
Juneau Warm Pad p. 249
Mega Motion 3 p. 249
Mega Motion 4 p. 249
Dub Arp Pad 1 p. 249
Dub Arp Pad 2 p. 249
Dub Arp Pad 3 p. 249
Large Pad p. 249
LP Filter Pad p. 249
Nine Keys Pad  p. 249
Pizzicato Pad p. 249
Square Pad 1 p. 249
Square Pad 2 p. 249
Square Pad 3 p. 249
Square Pad Reso p. 249
Sync Wash p. 249
Talking Keys Pad A p. 250
Talking Keys Pad B p. 250
DigiPad HP A p. 250
DigiPad HP B p. 250
DigiSeq Oct p. 250
DigiSweep FX A p. 250
DigiSweep FX B p. 250
DigiSweep FX C p. 250
DigiSynth Oct p. 250
DigiVint Synth A p. 250
DigiVint Synth B p. 250
E Piano Morph Wheel p. 250
Ethnic Organ p. 250
Ethnic Pad p. 250
Evo S&H p. 250
Evo Synth p. 250
Morph Organ p. 250
Phat Pad A p. 250
Phat Pad B p. 250
Presence A p. 250
Presence B p. 250
Rotary Pipe p. 250
Smooth Keys p. 250
Space Synthbrass p. 250
Sweep Synth p. 251
Vint Phase Synth p. 251
Motion Crystalline p. 251 [twice]
Motion Harmonics p. 251 [twice]
Motion Hollow p. 251 [twice]
Floating Pad p. 251
Noisy E Piano p. 251
Phase Synth p. 251
Psycho Strings p. 251
Reso 5th Chords p. 251
Vibrato Synth p. 251
Octave Pad p. 251
Octopad A
Octopad Athm p. 251
Octopad B p. 251
Octopad Notch p. 251
Octopad Reso p. 252
Octopad Stabs p. 252
Open Octopad p. 252
Pad Five Dry p. 252
Pad Five Orbital p. 252
Pad Five Stabs p. 252
Pad Five p. 252
Open Pad NN p. 252
Pad NN A p. 252
Pad NN B p. 252
Pad NN Stabs p. 252
Pad P14 A p. 252
Pad P14 B p. 252
Pad P14 C p. 252
Pad P14 Stabs p. 252
70s Sci Fi p. 252
Big Chord Stabs p. 252
Big Chords p. 252
Big Cosmo 2 p. 252
Deep Space Pipes p. 252
Open Pad Seven p. 253
Pad Seven Uptempo p. 253
Open Pad Seven B p. 253
Pad Seven B Full Evo p. 253
Pad Seven B Full p. 253
Pad Seven B1 p. 253
Pad Seven B2 p. 253
Pad Seven Uptempo p. 253
Open Pad Six p. 253
Pad Six B p. 253
Pad Six C p. 253
Pad Six Seq 2 p. 253
Pad Six Seq 3 p. 253
Pad Six Seq 4 p. 253
Pad Six Stabs 2 p. 253
Pad Six Stabs 3 p. 253
Pad Six Stabs 4 p. 253
Pad Six Sweep 1 p. 253
Pad Six Sweep 2 p. 253
Pad Six Sweep 4 p. 253
Pad Six Sweep Uptempo p. 254
Phase Runner Pad p. 254
Phase Runner p. 254
Open Supa Pad p. 254
Supa Pad A p. 254
Supa Pad B p. 254
Supa Pad C p. 254
Supa Pad Fla p. 254
Supa Pad Notch p. 254
Supa Pad Seq p. 254
Supa Pad Stabs 1 p. 254
Supa Pad Stabs 2 p. 254
Supa Pad Stabs 3 p. 254
Supa Pad Stabs 4 p. 254
Supa Pad Sweep 1 p. 254
Supa Pad Sweep 2 p. 254
Supa Pad Sweep 3 p. 254
Supa Pad Sweep 4 p. 254
Supa Pad Uptempo p. 254
Dark Orch A p. 254
Dark Orch B p. 254
Drowning Pad p. 254
Orch HP p. 254
Orch Mallets p. 255
Pizzicato Orch A p. 255
Random Bleeps p. 255
Sweep FX p. 255
BP Pad Mod p. 255
HP Pad Mod p. 255
Raw Saw Pad Seq p. 255
Raw Saw Pad Stabs 1 p. 255
Raw Saw Pad Stabs 2 p. 255
Sweep Evo Pad p. 255
FL Pad p. 255
Open Rich Pad p. 255
Rich Pad A p. 255
Rich Pad B p. 255
Rich Stab Pad A p. 255
Rich Stab Pad B p. 255
Rich Uptempo p. 255
Silky Pad p. 255
Square 5th Notch p. 256
Square 5th Slow p. 256
Square 5th Uptempo p. 256
Squared Pad Oct p. 256
Squared Pad p. 256
Squared Phone p. 256
Mystery Motion p. 256
Cosmic Pad p. 256
DetunePad p. 256
Stab Pad Z p. 256
Stereo Pad p. 256
Synth Pad 3 p. 257
Warm Pad 2 p. 257
Pad Bells 1 p. 257
Pad Bells 2 p. 257
Pad Bells 3 p. 257
Pad Bells 4 p. 257
Pad Bells 5 p. 257
Pad Bells 6 p. 257
Pad Bells 7 p. 257
Pad Bells 8 p. 257
Synth EP Bells p. 257
UW Pha Pad 16th p. 257
UW Pha Pad p. 257
UW Phat Pad 1 p. 257
UW Phat Pad 2 p. 257
UW Phat Pad 3 p. 257
UW Phat Pad 4 p. 257
UW Phat Pad 5 p. 257
UW Phat Pad 6 p. 257
UW Phat Pad 7 p. 257
UW Phat Pad 8 p. 257
UW Phat Pad Chords 1 p. 257
UW Phat Pad Chords 2 p. 257
UW Sweep 1 p. 257
UW Sweep 2 p. 258
UW Sweep 3 p. 258
UW Sweep 4 p. 258
UW Sweep 5 p. 258
UW Sweep 6 p. 258
UW Sweep 7 p. 258
UW Sweep 8 p. 258
Eerie Motion Profit p. 258
Warm Profit Pad p. 258
4d Pad p. 258
Analog Pad p. 258
At Most Pad p. 258
Beyond Voyage p. 258
Butterfly Pad p. 258
Cool Pad p. 258
Cosmic Pad p. 258
Crystal p. 258
Cutoff Pulse p. 258
DM Pad p. 258
Drum'n'Pad p. 258
Fat Square Pad p. 258
Flanging Pad p. 258
Flutterbies p. 258
FX MORPH p. 258
Glide Up p. 259
Hipass Square Pad p. 259
HPF Sweep Pad p. 259
Ionized p. 259
Jarre Pad p. 259
Krog Synth p. 259
Lo-rez HPF Sweep Pad p. 259
Mega Pad p. 259
Moon Walk p. 259
MotionHollow p. 259
Paddington p. 259
Piano Pad p. 259
Pulse Pad p. 259
REverse p. 259
Rotary Pad p. 259
S&H Pad p. 259
Singing Pad p. 259
Square Wave Pad 1 p. 259
SUB Sq Pad p. 259
Sunrise p. 259
Super HP p. 259
Sweep Down Pad p. 259
Sweep LPF Pad 1 p. 259
Sweep LPF Pad 2 p. 259
Sweepy Pad p. 259
Sync Pad p. 260
Synth Strings p. 260
Techno Duck p. 260
Techno Fuzz p. 260
Third Half p. 260
Tremolo Pad p. 260
Vari LPF-pad p. 260
Verb Pad p. 260
Very Long Pad p. 260
Very Verby p. 260
Warm Pad p. 260
Water Pad p. 260
Z Pad p. 260
Call Me Pickles p. 260
Chorus Pad p. 260
Concordian Pad p. 260
CoolAge Pad MW p. 260
Dream Underneath p 260
Glide Even More p. 260
Kinetik Pad p. 260
Left Behind p. 260
Lo Pass Sweep p. 260
Lonely Pad p. 260
S and H spacePAD p. 260
Signed and Seal p. 260
Sweep Pickles Sweep p. 261
Twelve Pole Pad p. 261
Widly Maril p. 261
Til It’s Time p. 268
Ahh Hard Ella p. 271
Ahh Soft Ella p. 271
Bah Hard Ella p. 271
Bah Soft Ella p. 271
Bee Ella p. 271
Buh Ella p. 271
Dah Hard Ella p. 271
Dah Soft Ella p. 272
Doo Hard Ella p. 272
Doo Soft Ella p. 272
Eee Ella p. 272
Hoh Hard Ella p. 272
Hoh Soft Ella p. 272
Na Ella p. 272
Oh Hard Ella p. 272
Oh Soft Ella p. 272
Ooh Hard Ella p. 272
Ooh Soft Ella p. 272
Uhh Ella p. 272
Whoa Hard Ella p. 272
Whoa Soft Ella p. 272
Woo Hard Ella p. 272
Woo Soft Ella p. 272
Ahh Soft Ella Legato p. 272
Dah Soft Ella Legato p. 272
Ahh Hard Joni p. 272
Ahh Soft Joni p. 272
Bah Hard Joni p. 272
Bee Joni p. 272
Buh Joni p. 272
Dah Hard Joni p. 272
Dah Soft Joni p. 272
Eee Joni p. 273
Hoh Soft Joni p. 273
Na Joni p. 273
Oh Hard Joni p. 273
Oh Soft Joni p. 273
Uhh Joni p. 273
Whoa Hard Joni p. 273
Whoa Soft Joni p. 273
Ahh Hard Marvin 1 p. 273
Ahh Hard Marvin 2 p. 273
Ahh Soft Marvin 1 p. 273
Ahh Soft Marvin 2 p. 273
Bah Marvin p. 273
Dah Marvin p. 273
Doo Marvin p. 273
Hoh Marvin p. 273
Oh Marvin 1 p. 273
Oh Marvin 2 p. 273
Ooh Hard Marvin 1 p. 273
Ooh Hard Marvin 2 p. 273
Ooh Soft Marvin 1 p. 273
Ooh Soft Marvin 2 p. 273
Whoa Marvin p. 273
Woo Hard Marvin p. 273
Woo Soft Marvin p. 273
Ahh Hard Marvin Stereo p. 274
Ahh Soft Marvin Stereo p. 274
Oh Marvin Stereo p. 274
Ooh Hard Marvin Stereo p. 274
Ooh Soft Marvin Stereo p. 274
Ahh Hard Paul p. 274
Ahh Soft Paul p. 274
Bah Hard Paul p. 274
Bee Paul p. 274
Buh Paul p. 274
Dah Hard Paul p. 274
Dah Soft Paul p. 274
Eee Paul p. 274
Hoh Hard Paul p. 274
Hoh Soft Paul p. 274
Na Paul p. 274
Oh Hard Paul p. 274
Oh Soft Paul p. 274
Uhh Paul p. 274
Whoa Hard Paul p. 274
Whoa Soft Paul p. 274
Ah Hard Ensemble p. 274
Ah Soft Ensemble p. 274
Bah Hard Ensemble p. 274
Bah Soft Ensemble p. 274
Dah Hard Ensemble p. 275
Dah Soft Ensemble p. 275
Doo Hard Ensemble p. 275
Doo Soft Ensemble p. 275
Hoh Hard Ensemble p. 275
Hoh Soft Ensemble p. 275
Oh Hard Ensemble p. 275
Ooh Hard Ensemble p. 275
Ooh Soft Ensemble p. 275
Whoah Hard Ensemble p. 275
Whoah Soft Ensemble p. 275
Woo Hard Ensemble p. 275
Woo Soft Ensemble p. 275
Gospel Choir Ah p. 275
Gospel Choir Hah p. 275
Gospel Choir Hum p. 275
Gospel Choir Mmm p. 275
Gospel Choir Ooh p. 275
Gospel Choir Who p. 275
Instruments07070Altos Ohs f p. 275
Altos Ohs p p. 275
Altos Uhs f p. 276
Altos Uhs p p. 276
Basses Ohs f p. 276
Basses Ohs p p. 276
Basses Uhs f p. 276
Basses Uhs p p. 276
Big Choir Ahs f p. 276
Big Choir Ahs p p. 276
Big Choir Ohs f p. 276
Big Choir Ohs p p. 276
Big Choir Uhs f p. 276
Big Choir Uhs p p. 276
Combi Choir p. 276
Fast Female Choir p. 276
Fast Male Choir p. 276
Female Choir 1 p. 276
Female Choir 2 p. 276
Female Choir 3 p. 276
Female Choir 4 p. 276
Female Choir 5 p. 276
Male Choir 1 p. 276
Male Choir 2 p. 276
Men pop Mms p. 276
Oh Baby Stretched p. 276
Ohh-Ahh Female Choir p. 276
Ohh-Ahh Male Choir p. 277
Pop Vocals p. 277
Soprano Ahs f p. 277
Soprano Ahs lite p. 277
Soprano Ahs p p. 277
Soprano Ohs f p. 277
Soprano Ohs p p. 277
Soprano Uhs lite p. 277
Sopranos Ohs f p. 277
Sopranos Ohs p p. 277
Sopranos Uhs f p. 277
Sopranos Uhs p p. 277
Tenors Ohs f p. 277
Tenors Ohs p p. 277
Tenors Uhs f p. 277
Tenors Uhs p p. 277
Women pop Mms p. 277
Basses drama Pad p. 277
Bend 5 Female Choir p. 277
Cavern Choir p. 277
Emotion Choir MW p. 277
Female Choral p. 277
FemChoir Pad p. 277
Full Choir Pad p. 277
Graceful hi-pitch choir p. 277
Heavenly p. 278
Hi Pass Choir p. 278
La Choir Z p. 278
Legato Ahs p. 278
Legato Singing Soprano Ahs p. 278
Legato Singing Soprano Ohs p. 278
Legato Uhs p. 278
Male Choir Anonymous p. 278
Oh Baby Actually Stretched p. 278
Real from Stretch MW p. 278
Slow crescendo choir p. 278
SlowChoir Uhs p p. 278
SlowDrama Altos p. 278
SlowDrama soft Altos p. 278
SlowFull Choir p. 278
Softly Ohs p. 278
Alto Sax Articulations p. 279
Baritone Sax Articulations p. 280
Flute Articulations p. 281
Tenor Sax Articulations p. 281
Alto Sax p. 286
Baritone Sax 2 p. 286
Soprano Sax p. 286
Octave Saxes p. 286
Sax Section 1 p. 286
Sax Section 2 p. 286
Sax Section 3 p. 286
Soprano & Clarinet p. 286
Alto Sax 1 p. 286
Alto Sax p. 286
Bassoon [ST2] p. 286
Clarinet [ST2] p. 286
Expression Alto Sax p. 286
Expression Soprano p. 287
Expression Tenor Sax p. 287
Flute [ST2] p. 287
Oboe [ST2] p. 287
Recorder p. 287
Sax Dub p. 287
Soprano Sax 1 p. 287
Soprano Sax  p. 287
Staccato Alto Sax p. 287
Tenor Sax 1 p. 287
Tenor Sax [ST2] p. 287
Alto Reed BS p. 287
Alto Strax p. 287
Bassoboe p. 287
Bassooner p. 287
Brandfor Fears p. 287
Clareed Dos p. 287
Clari K p. 287
Clarinet 2 p. 287
Expression Legato Alto Sax p. 287
Expression Legato Soprano p. 287
Expression Legato Tenor p. 287
Expressive MW and BC p. 287
Flute soloist p. 287
G-Soprano p. 287
Je Sax p. 288
Moody Bassoon p. 288
Morphwheel Synsax p. 288
Oboe 2 p. 288
Olegs Reluctance p. 288
out-of-reality Soprano p. 288
Sax Dub Strch p. 288
Smooth singin Soprano p. 288
Soprano Stretch p. 288
Steiner Would Like p. 288
Subpranos p. 288
Woody monoFlute p. 288
Billy Cobham Tom 1 p. 296
Billy Cobham Tom 2 p. 296
Billy Cobham Tom 3 p. 296
Billy Cobham Tom 4 p. 296
Billy Cobham Tom 5 p. 296
Billy Cobham Tom 6 p. 296
Neil Peart Tom 1 p. 352
Neil Peart Tom 2 p. 352
Neil Peart Tom 3 p. 352
Neil Peart Tom 4 p. 352
Neil Peart Tom 5 p. 352
Neil Peart Tom 6 p. 352
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Re: Full list of 1.300 sounds missing from SampleTank 4 MAX

Postby Steve-xyz » Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:09 pm

I don't have ST4 MAX as an individual purchase. I have ST4 MAX from Total Studio 2 MAX which included ST3. Also, I have most of the Libraries (but not the Syntronik 2 Libraries).

So far I only spot checked a handful on your list. I found Accordian and Arabic Oud only in the ST3 Library. Do you have that installed? If so, is the ST3 folder in the place it needs to be so it can be seen by ST4? (Don't ask me where that is. I recall seeing it posted in the forum.)

I have the Neil Peart Library which has the Neil Peart Toms presets which has Toms and Toms Alt as Elements. I do not see Toms 1 - 6 as either presets of Elements inside Neil Peart Kit. Maybe the 6 toms are part of a multisample which we don't have access to. Just a guess.

If you look at the description for Neil Peart Toms, it looks like a multisample. I have not figured out how to use the ST4 Editor (Beta, Unsupported). Not sure if we have access to Toms 1-6 there. Maybe someone else knows?

Hope this helps.

Just checked Smooth singin Soprano. I have it in the ST3 Library. The description says its from the Sample Tank 2.5 XL Library optimized for Sample Tank 3. Maybe you can reduce your list if you can find the ST3 Library and make sure it is in the right place to be seen by ST4.

Ditto for Kinetik Pad . . .
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Re: Full list of 1.300 sounds missing from SampleTank 4 MAX

Postby ghavet3 » Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:40 pm

Dear Steve-xyz.

My version is ST4 MAX from a recent purchase of Total Studio 3.5 MAX Maxgrade. My version includes a "SampleTank3" library and a "ST3 Imported" library, both installed and working properly.

Concerning Neil Parts toms, it's true that the six missing toms are also located inside the so-called "Neil Peart Toms" sound (you play them by pressing following notes on the keyboard) but they should be additionally available as separate toms, 1, 2, 3 exactly as listed ; for example, when you check Terry Bozzio, the toms are listed as "Terry Bozzio Toms" plus Terry Bozzio Tom 1, 2, 3" and they are netherheless all PRESENT in the library, exactly as listed.

Moreover, there is no obvious logic to the absence of so many sounds, except laziness or lack of work on the archives by the IK's multimedia teams. Missing sounds are located in all types of libraries (ST4, ST3, ST2); they are absent from the installation files and absent from the libraries (I checked them in-depth). Where are the electric guitars humbuckers sounds? There is none! Half of the electrical guitar single coils sounds are missing! Take the "Trancy Lead A" sound; it's present while the Trancy Lead B and C are missing. "Phat Saw Hits" 4 and 5 are present while number 1, 2, 3 and 6 are absent. There is no logic at all. You talk of ST 2? Hundred of Sample Tank 2.5 XL sounds are indeed there while at the same time hundred ones are missing.

It also greatly affects the "multis". Try to launch "Arabic Oud demo" multi: the answer is "Part 1 loading issues". Try "Bouzouki demo", same answer.
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Re: Full list of 1.300 sounds missing from SampleTank 4 MAX

Postby garfy » Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:58 pm

Hello ghavet3 and welcome to the forums.

It cannot be argued that your attention to detail is second to none and you must have an issue if you have gone to such lengths.

However, I did the first 30 or so of your list and then randomly picked others, including Trancy Leads (A B C and D are there), some of the Humbuckers and the Arabic Oud demo and everything was there as expected.

I guess the only thing to confirm on your end is that you're not searching for these presets with any of the library filters on the left hand side selected?

If you have had replies to a ticket from Official IK Support, I would suggest replying to it to reopen the case and tell them you still have not had a satisfactory conclusion to your issue. I'm sure they will help you work through it.
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Re: Full list of 1.300 sounds missing from SampleTank 4 MAX

Postby Steve-xyz » Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:46 pm

garfy wrote:. . . I did the first 30 or so of your list and then randomly picked others, including Trancy Leads (A B C and D are there), some of the Humbuckers and the Arabic Oud demo and everything was there as expected.

I have been looking at this issue myself in part because I have an issue with Syntronik 2 SE presets that might be similar and also to a large extent because exploring issues like this are tremendously educational in terms of understanding and making use of the software.

As for the Humbuckers, I have a lot of them. They show up in the list, so I know they are not being filtered out. However, I have found that several make no sound, although the envelops and lfos all seem to be working.

Would you mind checking Humbucker 175 B+N 5, Humbucker 175 B+N 6, and Humbucker 175 B+N 7? If those work for you, I will try to reinstall the ST3 library since that is where they are coming from. If that doesn't help, I will try to problem-solve it myself before contacting support (they seem to be quite busy).

Thanks.
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Re: Full list of 1.300 sounds missing from SampleTank 4 MAX

Postby ghavet3 » Sun Feb 27, 2022 10:03 pm

Dear garfy, thank you for your interest in my case.

Concerning the answer from IK multimedia, they made as if my request was to recover an old list of ST3 files inside ST4; they explained me how to make ST4 track an alleged old list of ST3 sounds which does not exist. I never bought ST3 in the past. I bought directly the latest version of ST4. There is no "old" library of sounds available anywhere. All my sounds (INCLUDING THOUSANDS OF ST2 AND ST3 SOUNDS) are indeed present and located inside my ST4 version. And when I replied to them to re-open the case and argued why their answer was irrelevant, they never replied.

Yes you are right, I did not either search those presets with any of the library filters on the left hand side selected. Yes, I additionally made dozens of attempts on many of those sounds with all sorts of tricks to flush out any mistakes.

My opinion is that IK multimedia teams do not work properly hand in hand with their various offices in Italy and in the US. They copy and paste old lists of archives without checking them properly. As a result, the older your date of purchase, the best it is, since you hold hundred of sounds that have been "forgotten" throughout the years by the software engineers working on them. So you may have tons of sounds more than me with an older purchase! My version is 4.1.6 (21L01) version. It has been properly and fully loaded.

I checked the installation files (even inside the zip files) and none of those sounds are present, be it inside the so-called ST3 imported libray or any of the files listed. They are simply absent. No electric guitar humbucker sound is available: none! Half of the single coil guitar sounds are missing. As already explained "Phat Saw Hits" 4 and 5 are present while number 1, 2, 3 and 6 are absent! This is nonsense. Thousands of ST 2.5 and ST3 sounds are just present besides hundred of other ones that are missing. And ST4 sounds are concerned the same way.

Best regards.
garfy wrote:Hello ghavet3 and welcome to the forums.

It cannot be argued that your attention to detail is second to none and you must have an issue if you have gone to such lengths.

However, I did the first 30 or so of your list and then randomly picked others, including Trancy Leads (A B C and D are there), some of the Humbuckers and the Arabic Oud demo and everything was there as expected.



If you have had replies to a ticket from Official IK Support, I would suggest replying to it to reopen the case and tell them you still have not had a satisfactory conclusion to your issue. I'm sure they will help you work through it.
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Re: Full list of 1.300 sounds missing from SampleTank 4 MAX

Postby garfy » Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:17 pm

Hi Steve-xyz

Steve-xyz wrote:
Would you mind checking Humbucker 175 B+N 5, Humbucker 175 B+N 6, and Humbucker 175 B+N 7?


Ok, well that was a doozy of a fault find, but I think I've found the problem specifically with these 3 presets.

By removing the *.pak file for 175BN1 and 2, it threw up the "cannot find samples" error when trying to open ANY of the Humbucker 175 B+N presets proving that they were all looking for the same pak file.

The 5,6, and 7 presets were all appearing as though they were loading samples the same as 1,2,3, & 4 but just not sounding. The Edit Instrument screen looks like the samples were being triggered, so they should be sounding.

Anyway, the problem is in the Effects Rack, specifically with the LFO Filter and even more specifically with the Mode set to BP and the slope set to 6. Use a different mode or slope, or bypass the LFO filter completely and the instruments should sound.

Not sure how that has happened in the programming. Very strange.

Let us know if that fixes your issue with those presets.
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Re: Full list of 1.300 sounds missing from SampleTank 4 MAX

Postby garfy » Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:31 pm

Hello ghavet3

ghavet3 wrote:Concerning the answer from IK multimedia, they made as if my request was to recover an old list of ST3 files inside ST4; they explained me how to make ST4 track an alleged old list of ST3 sounds which does not exist. I never bought ST3 in the past.


Even if you haven't bought ST3 in the past, the sounds from it come as part of ST4MAX. They should however, be installed in a SampleTank 3 folder alongside the SampleTank 4 folder. Can you make sure that, wherever your ST4 sound content is located there is also one for ST3 and that the ST4 app is pointed at it in Settings>Sound Content>SampleTank 3.

However, this may be by the by as, if you are missing sounds from ST3 and ST4 it would appear that something has gone astray during the installation. Did you install using the IK Product Manager or by manually downloading from your User Area and installing that way. Also, have you installed or moved the Sound Content files and folders from the default location to a secondary drive?

ghavet3 wrote:I checked the installation files (even inside the zip files) and none of those sounds are present, be it inside the so-called ST3 imported libray or any of the files listed.


If all you have done is installed the ST4MAX packages, you should not expect there to be anything inside the ST3 Imported folders. These are specifically for other sound sets not included in the main ST3 release (such as SampleTron and SampleMoog).

I'm sure there is a simple explanation to all this, but it will take a little time to work out exactly what. I still think that your best route is to re-connect with Official IK Support who can give you some one to one help.
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Re: Full list of 1.300 sounds missing from SampleTank 4 MAX

Postby Steve-xyz » Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:08 pm

garfy wrote:Hi Steve-xyz
Steve-xyz wrote:Would you mind checking Humbucker 175 B+N 5, Humbucker 175 B+N 6, and Humbucker 175 B+N 7?

Ok, well that was a doozy of a fault find, but I think I've found the problem specifically with these 3 presets . . . .

. . . the problem is in the Effects Rack, specifically with the LFO Filter and even more specifically with the Mode set to BP and the slope set to 6. Use a different mode or slope, or bypass the LFO filter completely and the instruments should sound.

Not sure how that has happened in the programming. Very strange.

Let us know if that fixes your issue with those presets.

Thanks for checking on those and for finding the solution!!!! With the other settings in the LFO Filter (Cutoff especially) the Band Pass filter was blocking the fundamental sound of the guitar. They now sound like their ST3 counterparts. :-)
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Re: Full list of 1.300 sounds missing from SampleTank 4 MAX

Postby BassGuy99 » Mon Feb 28, 2022 9:01 pm

garfy wrote:Hi Steve-xyz

Steve-xyz wrote:
Would you mind checking Humbucker 175 B+N 5, Humbucker 175 B+N 6, and Humbucker 175 B+N 7?


Ok, well that was a doozy of a fault find, but I think I've found the problem specifically with these 3 presets.

By removing the *.pak file for 175BN1 and 2, it threw up the "cannot find samples" error when trying to open ANY of the Humbucker 175 B+N presets proving that they were all looking for the same pak file.

The 5,6, and 7 presets were all appearing as though they were loading samples the same as 1,2,3, & 4 but just not sounding. The Edit Instrument screen looks like the samples were being triggered, so they should be sounding.

Anyway, the problem is in the Effects Rack, specifically with the LFO Filter and even more specifically with the Mode set to BP and the slope set to 6. Use a different mode or slope, or bypass the LFO filter completely and the instruments should sound.

Not sure how that has happened in the programming. Very strange.

Let us know if that fixes your issue with those presets.


So how does one go about changing the mode or slope? I've tried left/right click, double click, click and drag, even stuck my tongue out both sides of my mouth but cannot get those values to change on any of those presets...only alternative is to shut it off?
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Re: Full list of 1.300 sounds missing from SampleTank 4 MAX

Postby garfy » Mon Feb 28, 2022 9:24 pm

Hi BassGuy99

BassGuy99 wrote:So how does one go about changing the mode or slope?


Click and drag up/down works on both Slope and Mode for me (as with all the other knobby controls). Also, as I'm using a trackpad I can double finger swipe up/down with the pointer over a control, although I don't know if that is just a Mac thing.
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Re: Full list of 1.300 sounds missing from SampleTank 4 MAX

Postby BassGuy99 » Mon Feb 28, 2022 11:02 pm

Thanks Garfy - I guess I didn't drag quite far enough!
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Re: Full list of 1.300 sounds missing from SampleTank 4 MAX

Postby Promidi » Tue Mar 01, 2022 9:12 am

This post made me curious so I had a bit of a look.

I have Sampletank 4 Max and searched for the patch “Jazz Upright Piano”. I could not find it.

So I searched my entire hard drive for a file with “Jazz Upright Piano” in it. I actually found a folder in my Sampletank 3 library location (Which is one of the locations ST4 MAX is configured to look in) that had this string in it.

On my PC, it’s in “D:\Content\Sampletank 3\Instruments\07__Piano” Folder. There are 4 files in that folder. One of those files is “001__Upright Piano”.

So it looks like the names you need to search for are not as they appear in the list of Sampletank 4 Max patches. You would have to search for “Upright Piano”
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Re: Full list of 1.300 sounds missing from SampleTank 4 MAX

Postby Steve-xyz » Tue Mar 01, 2022 6:46 pm

In the ST3 Instruments Folder, I have 07_Piano > Jazz Upright Piano with four files: 001_Upright Piano, Classical Upright Piano, Natural Upright Piano, and Slam Upright Piano.

I also have 07_Piano > Y_Jazz Upright Piano Eco with two files: Synth Piano PAD and Upright Piano Eco.

The description for Upright Piano Eco says it it is derived from the master Jazz Upright instrument.

Looking at how they appear in ST3, I would guess that Jazz Upright Piano > Upright piano might be the master Jazz Upright instrument.
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Re: Full list of 1.300 sounds missing from SampleTank 4 MAX

Postby ghavet3 » Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:00 pm

Dear all,

thank you for your kind help.

Many of you presume that I am misunderstanding the names of the samples that may have alternate names. Sorry to say that this is not the case; should it exist it must be marginal and may concern only a tiny fraction of my missing sounds, not to say that I've been rather compliant when I made my list; I indeed dismissed many sounds whom selection could be dubious.

Many of you also presume that I there is a simple explanation like : "the installation was made improperly". Sorry to say that this is not the case; my product manager testifies of it, sounds are ALL marked green.

Since I kept my installation files apart, I made a new interesting attempt. Inspecting for example the content of my "SampleTank_3_Sound_Content_Part_8.zip file", I see many of my missing files, for example the "ocarina" sample inside the ethnic folder. When I unzip this "SampleTank_3_Sound_Content_Part_8.zip file" file to extract the samples folders and the "Install SampleTank 3 Sound Content (8 of 8).exe", it took 2 minutes to extract the 5 Go. When I then launched the "Install SampleTank 3 Sound Content (8 of 8).exe" and indicated to the launch software where to install the files inside my Sampletank folder, something strange happened; it took only 5 seconds to install the 5 Go. And the result is that I have still the same structure folder for ethnic samples, containing only 4 instruments, exactly as it was before this attempt. No trace of ocarina and all other missing ethnic sounds. So it seems that something goes wrong when the installation software does the job of installing the samples; for an unknown reason, it does not take into account the full list of ethnic sample, but only a few ones (operation that last 5 seconds) instead of installing at least one hundred samples, that are there indeed, ready to be installed (operation that should last at least one minute).

My version of ST4 comes from the purchase of Total Studio 3.5 MAX Maxgrade, has it something to do? How to explain, that all persons that kindly answered here find their sounds properly installed in their folders and not me, even after the new specific try that I just made. Should I re-installed everything at a high cost of time to get the same result?

Again, IK Multimedia support team let me down with irrelevant answers and nether replied when I asked again for help.
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